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911 Made Simple - Planes can't enter steel buildings

One_2.gif 9/11/01: Downtown Manhattan is attacked by nuclear weapons. It remains a cancer zone to this day. In addition, the TV news networks aired fake video of animated planes striking the World Trade Center on 9/11/01. The fact that the TV networks aired fake planes on TV is the most important fact of this time.

Fake, Fake, Fake
911 "plane"!

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Despite heavy censorship, The 911 Hoax is finally getting out.

However, New York Metro is running out of time. The 911 Hoax has to break soon. The US economy is teetering. (Two billion a day on wars are taking a toll.) New York Metro has to wake up now about the phony 9/11 planes or martial law will come to the United States.

Three_2.gif Join us! We're the ones who know that aluminum planes can't enter steel buildings like ghosts! We're the ones who know that the core columns in the WTC would have shredded any plane that managed somehow to pass the exterior steel walls.

Four_2.gif Stand up and be heard! No planes struck the World Trade Center.





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With regards to religion:

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS GOD, NOT GOD.

Prime example of such a necessity... Look at how messed up the political geography of Iraq was/is... We are playing in a minefield when we bring religion into politics. Politics has to do with real world events, actual happenings, and certain understood norms. Religion should never be allowed to transcend political lines. Only the pope can talk to god, so why would you listen to Bush as if he's had some divine power bestowed upon him?

No one asks you to remove your bible from your home, Al Gore (albeit he is a crazy) would NEVER, EVER ask peple to do that either... It's a common respect that is shared among people in the US.. If you want religion in government then perhaps you should try living in the Middle East, I hear that they have got it sorted.

I hope I have not offended anyone, I do not believe in God, I would never ask another person to give up their faith, but I beg of you to ALWAYS keep a separation of Church and State. Lest we follow down the dark path of a gov't based on the Divine Right of.. well.. anything!

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So yeah, my stats (debt facts) are off.. But if Bush cared about those things, he may be considered competent .

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As if Bush is a perfect presidential candidate.. I would prefer, hands down, Clinton as a replacement... Better to be blown IN the oval office than to have some crazy terrorist blow you OUT of it...

His missile defence plan will protect the US, I have no arguments on that... but at what cost? The alienation of all their allies? Isolationism would take over and then it would be everyone elses time to watch the US collapse on its multi-trillion$$ debt.

Clinton built this country up, created a cash reserve (unusual no?) and actually followed through on what he planned (like setting a schedule for operation Night Fox and STICKING TO IT). I could care less if he got a reach around from Al Gore on the front steps of the White House... At least he didnt have to resort to making up words in his presidential speeches (or failing to speak above a 13 year old's vocabulary and rhetoric), that man was intelligent and invovled in his political career... Bush left alone is like a 2 year old child... Breaking things with no remorse, starting fights because Saddam made a joke about Bush's ears and height (and intellect(lack thereof)), failing to take the advice of the people who he governs and more.

Being president is not your token to fuck the people who didnt vote for you... YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN A POLIICAL OFFICE, you run the COUNTRY not your choice of 15 states.. If I may be so graciously allowed to, I would just like to say: Thanks, Jackass.

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So here is my biggest argument with the Bush administration.

Your "war" on Iraq has become a drawn out and redundant failure. Day after day, Bush re-assures us of his ultimate success in this endeavour, but also day after day we hear about the false pretenses that led him to war; the lack of support within the country; the casualty rates that exceeded many expectations of this "short conflict"; the countless times that he American people have been lied to blatantly about the objective of the war. OPEN YOUR EYES!! I know that I saw the video on youtube on Saddam hanging by his murderous neck... Technically, hasn't he been disarmed too? Now you have created new enemies that also need disarming, not only in Iraq, but in Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, Israel - or the collective Middle East (An American terminology)

In opposition to Bush's plans for the future of this war, he has stated many times that the war would end "shortly" or "in the coming year".. today when I turned on the news the sum of his recent accretions are creating an ever intensifying tension in the ME that is no doubt coming to a head. Why can't we just pull out and let them collapse on themselves? They don't need the United States' help in doing that (remember the Oil-amo).

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ECONOMY UPDATE - Part 2
Non-defense durable orders declined 8.1%. Capital goods orders fell even more, with a 1 month change of -23.1%. (The previous day's prediction was for a change of only 0.0%. Off just a little.) Most of this change was in Nondefense Capital goods, which experienced a -20.0% change from the previous month. (The previous day's anticipated change was only -0.2%. Again, off by a just a tad.) Machinery orders declined 2.5%.

The capital goods order decline of 23% suggests a similar decline in true capital investment. It indicates a huge decline in demand for capital goods, as well as a decline in demand for production those capital goods facilitate.

These numbers are NOT indicative of an economy that is "strong, and getting stronger." They're indicative of an economy that is "weak, and getting weaker." They're indicative of an economy that's sinking. And sinking rapidly.

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ECONOMY UPDATE - Part 1

Friday's Durable Orders showed a huge monthly decline, marking a -10.2% change from the previous month. Not only did Durable Orders decline sharply, the decline was MUCH worse than predicted by the "experts." As of Monday, February 20th, the Market anticipated only a -0.3% change in Durable Orders. By Thursday, February 23rd, the anticipated decline had been revised further to -2.0%. The actual -10.2% change was markedly worse than expected. Below is a link to a graphic representation of this decline.

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Below is a link to copy from Briefing.com showing the actual numbers.

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This information can also be found at Briefing.com at http://www.briefing.com/Investor/Public/MarketAnalysis/Calendars/EconomicReleases/durord.htm

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Real wage decline has been described as a mystery by many financial analysts. In fact, there's no mystery whatsoever. Current real wage decline is the result of some basic economic factors. The apparent "mystery" is caused by the miscalculation and misapplication of these factors in today's economy. The 1st first factor is the miscalculation of unemployment which distorts true labor force size. This distorts the true supply and demand factors. The 2nd factor is the overestimation of the "sticky wage" effect on today's employment picture.

The calculated unemployment has been kept lower than its true number by statistical chicanery. Under Bush a MUCH greater number of unemployed workers have been re-classified as "not in the labor force." As such, they are not counted as unemployed and their exclusion greatly reduces the alleged unemployment rate. This number has grown twice as fast during Bush's 5 years as it did during Clinton's last 5 years.

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Wage Decline: No Mystery Whatsoever-Part 1

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A collection of news articles about George Bush, from the Washington Post, NY Times, BBC and others
documenting this Administrations catastrophic reign. On topics like: War on Terror, Environment,
Healthcare, Television...

Check it out.

Great Anti-Bush News Site

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This message is for "Tri-D"

First of all, have you ever heard of seperation of church and state? I'm a Christian too but i dont think Christianity or any other religion should be mixed with a government. You have your facts wrong about history, look at history, the governments with religion involved are corrupt and eventually crumble. Most of organized religion is a form of control anyways and Bush has mastered that technique. And seriously, how can you even compare killing innocent Middle-Eastern people to liberating Europe from Hitler? Come on now.

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LABOR COST REDUCTIONS DECREASE LONG TERM PROFITS - Part 3

Here again, the reduction in aggregate labor costs is completely nullified by the reduction in total sales. There is simply NO benefit from aggregate nationwide labor cost reduction, because the loss of consumer sales equals the labor cost reduction. As a result, there is no aggregate increase in nationwide business profits. There is simply a shift in individual company profits away from companies [b]not[/b] reducing labor costs, to companies that [b]are[/b] reducing labor costs.

This effect does not remain "balanced," however. The nationwide (and global) decline in wages reduces aggregate consumer demand for production. This further reduces demand for labor to provide that production, causing further declines in labor income, consumer spending, and consumer production demand.

Thus, on a national or global scale, short-term profit increases from labor cost reductions cause long-term [b]decreases[/b] in profits. [b]This short-sighted concern with short-term profits is leading us toward a long-term economic decline[/b].

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LABOR COST REDUCTIONS DECREASE LONG-TERM PROFITS - Part 2

There are 2 ways businesses can increase profits. They can increase the sale of production, or they can reduce the cost of production. Sale of production only increases if aggregate demand increases. If aggregate demand does not increase, the only way profits increase is by reduced production costs. This almost always comes from reducing labor costs. However, labor cost reductions reduce labor/consumer income, which reduces aggregate demand. If there's a total, nationwide reduction in wages, total product sales will also decline. The [b]reduction[/b] in sales reduces profits and completely nullifies gains made from labor cost reductions.

Labor cost reductions may temporarily increase individual company profits. But this is true only on a small scale. If labor cost reduction is a nationwide phenomena, the aggregate loss in labor income becomes noticeable. It reduces the total amount of money available to buy goods.

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LABOR COST REDUCTIONS DECREASE LONG-TERM PROFITS - Part 1

Recent increases in American business profits have come almost exclusively from decreased labor costs, combined with debt-financed consumer spending increases. Aggregate demand is essential for these profits.

Aggregate demand can only be maintained if wages are maintained, or if consumer borrowing increases enough to compensate for wage declines. Wages have [b]not[/b] been maintained, however. In fact, inflation-adjusted hourly wages have [b]declined[/b] 0.5% over the past year. In contrast, productivity has increased markedly over the same period. Corporate profits have also increased. Despite wage declines, consumer spending has actually increased. Consumer borrowing has been the source of this paradoxical increase. Consumer borrowing has prevented the consumer spending decrease that would've otherwise occurred. Consumer borrowing has maintained the demand necessary for businesses to profit. The aggregate demand needed to sustain our economy is being maintained [b]exclusively[/b] by increased borrowing.

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GW Bush has just GOT TO GO!!!!
He cheated on the election he cheated his way through school he cheated to get out of a war.

Now he wants to cheat me out of my country

George Dubya Bush I will do EVERYTHING I can possibly do LEGALLY to get you OUT and your puppetmasters as well.

I consider it my DUTY as an AMERICAN

The similarities to the start of Nazi Germany and GW are astounding!
help me out.... go to www.antibushusa.com and get a button or a tee and wear them or give them away

Thanks Russ Coe

ANTI BUSH USA

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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

does anyone besides me think that John Kerry was never seriously running? How come he didn't attend the March for Women in DC (in April, 2004) that drew 1.2 million people??

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Serious Question....Serious answers anyone?


Has the USA ever re-elected a WORSE President than George W. in the last 100 years?

Lemme know please....

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Dana, what you ignore, what Bush loyalists and pundits gloss over, is that all statements in favor of invading Iraq were made BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE PRESIDENT. As demonstrated in the 9/11 Commission Report, this administration "cherry picked" the intelligence it provided to congress, the American people and the world, omitting the caveats provided therein, and relying on the testimony of avowed Hussein enemies. They knew exactly what they were doing.<P>

Richard Clark acknowledged that Bush was looking for a justification to invade Iraq, whether the information existed or not.<P>

<A HREF="http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/60min_StahlClarke_transcript.html">Richard Clark's interview on 60 Minutes</a><P>

Colin Powell, speaking before the United Nations, stated emphatically that Iraq had WMD's. "This is not an assertion. This is a fact," were his exact words. At the very least, this administration knew there were serious doubts, but didn't state them.<P>

This is what everybody means when they say <b>George W. Bush lied</b>, and thousands of people are dead as a result.

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Why do some people continue to call Bush a liar? I think this calling Bush a liar, is a spin and not a fact.

1) A lie is the deliberate act of telling the opposite of what one *knows* is the truth. More accurately, people should be saying that he came to wrong conclusions or assumptions about Iraq having WMD.

2) It seems a great number of people easily forget that the President Bush wasn't the only person who came to that wrong assumption. Indeed, there were *many* others who also thought Iraq had weapons of mass destructions.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others.

And Kerry said this *just* before the war:

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Here are more democratic speeches:

http://www.kgoam810.com/viewentry.asp?ID=285848&PT=PERSONALITIES

Well, have they all lied?

How about these: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm

Wow! I suppose they lied too?

Here's a complete speech by Kerry: http://www.kgoam810.com/viewentry.asp?ID=317195&PT=PERSONALITIES

Question: How do people so easily forget these speeches?

The Answer is, media bias. I may be wrong about this but I think the media conveniently 'forgot' those speeches in order to report only what the public wants to hear. The media knows the public believes one thing based on letters to the editors, polls, etc. So stories are slanted to support that way of thinking. After all, who wants to hear something other than what the been lead (brainwashed) to believe. Would you buy a paper prints what you don't want to hear?


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Hmm... well, where do we start, Tracy?

The Economy: George W. Bush took a cash surplus built up by Bill Clinton and turned it into a record deficit, giving much of it to the richest 10% of Americans. He lost jobs. He continues to bankrupt the country with an unjust war.

Education: He had an idea for an educational plan, but failed to fund it. He has more educational spending cuts planned for after his supposed election.

Foreign Relations: Alienated most of our allies with the aforementioned war, almost ignored the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Ignored genocide in Sudan.

The Environment: Loosened or tried to relax standards for polluters (EPA lawsuits are down 90% under Bush). Wants to open the Arctic Wildlife Refuge for oil drilling.

Commander in Chief: Lied to the American people about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. When he got his war, prosecuted it recklessly and so far, unsuccessfully after declaring "Mission Accomplished."

Beyond that, has run a campaign devoted to twisting and misrepresenting the words of his opponent. His party has distributed flyers in the South claiming that "Liberals" like John Kerry intend to BAN THE BIBLE. Is currently engaged in a phone campaign telling voters that Kerry has accepted illegal campaign contributions from China.

This is the worst, most incompetent, most destructive Presidential administration in the last 100 years.

Hope you can do something with that.

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #42


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Hello!
I hope that someone will be able to help me out with some research I am doing on President Bush's accomplishments during the past four years. I would like to volunteer to help the Bush election campaign here in my town but, unfortunately, I don't feel that I am well enough informed. Could you give me a list of some of the good things that President Bush has done?

Thanks,
Tracy
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Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #41


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Maybe you can help me out with something. President Bush says he is opposed to stem cell research on moral grounds. If I understand him correctly, he is concerned that allowing such research would lead to more abortions - and that it lessens the sanctity of life.

Fair enough.

But consider my situation:

My five-year-old daughter was born with a severe heart defect. She's had three open-heart surgeries already. While she is doing wonderfully, we don't know what her long-term prognosis is. It's possible that she will need a heart transplant down the road.

She is exactly the kind of person who will benefit from stem cell research: potentially, such research could lead to new techniques for repairing her damaged heart tissues - or, perhaps, even growing her a new heart.

As a father, I have to ask why the unborn who are we are supposedly protecting through a ban on stem cell research are more important than my daughter - whose life could be greatly improved.

For a lot of you - and for the president - this may be an abstract "moral" issue. But for me, it's not. It's about MY child and HER welfare. It's about the possibility of a long and propserous life.

Would any of you deny that to your child on moral grounds?

Anyway, I am genuninely interested in what others have to say about this issue.
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This is soooo funny, check it out: http://www.johnkerrylibrary.org/
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Four more years of Bush is an absolute MUST for this country. Theres too much going on to change coaches in midstream. Kerry ( really the guys last name was Kohn, back in the early 1900's, according to his family tree) might be an ok guy, but not experienced enough to take over during a war.
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I think President Bush is a wonderful leader. He shows great values and he is concerned about our nation's security, no matter how unpopular it makes him with a lot of people. I, for one, feel safer since Hussein was taken out of power. Our economic growth is the highest it's been in 20 years, and I feel like I can understand what he stands up for. Kerry, on the other hand, is shaky at best on our nation's security, has no clear-cut plan on "improving our economy" even though he claims to be able to do so. He can't stand up for anything except for the fact that he isn't Bush. For a lot of people who are blinded by the message of the mainstream media, that is enough. Watch fox news. Listen to Sean Hannity. Listen to Rush Limbaugh. Find out the truth. Then Make your decision.
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i am looking for any sites that show the accomplishments of Bush or sites that have things like "what the liberals say about Bush" then show the actual facts-if anyone has any sites like this please email them to me

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As for George W Bush, he is strong on family, country, and religon - that is why he is a good choice for President. Strong on family because it takes a man and a women to raise a child. This is the way God intended it and the way nature works. Strong on country because he is taking the fight to the terrorists. We need to show the countries in the middle-east region that we don't back down when attacked. Unlike the Carter and Clinton era of passiveness and foreign failures. Strong on religion because he believes there is a higher power. Societies without morals fail, history shows us this. Our forefathers realized that it was vital to be a moralistic society. George Bush realizes this as well.

Did you know... there is a way to use adult stem cells and not have to "grow" human embryos?

I'm warry of anyone who flops based on the lastest poll or changes his story down the line on several different topics. I also leary of anyone who supposedly loves this country but has voted down major defensive initiatives.

People need to realize that in order to maintain the peace, you need a big stick and yes, sometimes war is necessary in order to obtain freedom. This is, after all, how we became a country, and how we liberated Europe for Nazi Germany.
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Ok so I went overboard there -- *some* cool things exist or have happened thanks to the U.S.A so it would really be a drag if it blew up. Oh and sorry if the last post was too hostile. Nevertheless I really don't like the control freaks there at all. I hate them anywhere. And George W. Bush is clearly a power-tripper, he's into SHOCK of naked Iraqi women and boys and AWE being evoked in those who see it first-hand so he looks like the Mr Scary Pants you don't mess with who's following in the path of "Daddy" like a good churchie-boy.

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The U.S. thinks itself so full of "heroes" but really it is a nation of cowards: in WW2 when they dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima they lined it up so it was deliberately-dropped where a schoolbus was crossing a bridge -- I watched it on History Channel over a year ago -- and then they insulted some of the most badly-injured of the survivors by taking nude photos of them for no reason claiming it was for medical research but it wasn't and the Americans always claimed it was payback for Pearl Harbor but that's a lie from a nation of Satanic whores because there is no ethical reason why the punishment has to be 10 times or 100 times more vicious than the offence. Yet when the U.S. decides to "punish" another nation it usually gives them a ridiculous amount more pain than it gave them. This to me says that America is run by ruthless beauracratic capitalist bastards who can't count when it comes to what is fair and what is rightfully that of others. Don't think for one second it's a nice country just because it's got a pretty flag and some cool stars and "The Muppets" and McDonalds and all that. It's the s1ut capital of the World, look what it's doing for decency in Iraq right now. Hell, American soldiers in occupied Japan were screwing young teenage girls and paying them chocolate bars for it, do your research. There was that incident in Vietnam with that little girl who got hit by napalm and she was running down the street screaming and with no clothes on and all the villagers with her too, all fleeing. And you can bet your last dollar that someone in the U.S. Government spanked off over that image, because that's the thing they thrive on over there. In the '80s we had those people starving in Africa because America didn't want the "reds" to take hold there so they helped fascists stay in power. They even sh*t on Castro even though he's by no means the worst leader around, Haiti is much more degenerate than Cuba will ever be and it's a testament to Castro's character that he's lasted this long and hasn't been killed yet so he must be doing something right, and it doesn't involve slaughtering heaps of people there -- or at least it's fair to say that in the time Fidel Castro has been leader of Cuba he has had less people killed than the American Government have had killed, who's real purpose in this toilet of a World is to con and suck everyone into dropping their own way of being governed and take up the Yank way so that they can unite everyone in their big money-spinning machine and kill anyone who doesn't comply on the sly using some kind of "agents", assuming Michael Moore doesn't obtain award-winning footage of it. America should be blasted off the face of the Earth. As for me I have the misfortune of being Australian. I say "misfortune" for 2 reasons: because Australia is usually seen as too remote and stupid to have anyone with anything to say (like me) and because Australia IS remote and stupid, or at least our Prime Minister John Howard is -- because only a person with the humanitarian insights of a retarded fetus would support that hypocrite Bush. Feel free to send me your hate e-mails, I really don't care what you think.

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Hello,

Isn't it nice not to have a new presidential sex or criminal scandal every week? Clinton made us look bad to the entire world, we were the laughing stock. Now, everybody sees what true integrity can due when it is on display in the Oval Office.

-Robin

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Sam Jones,
You see, Scott is one of those people who can not get over the fact that Bush is President. He is in denial. He was so convinced that his pick, Gore, lost. I have offered him counseling to deal with this. I have experience in this because I spent 8 long years dealing with the fact that the people of this nation were so stupid enough to vote in Clinton not once but twice. Scott can not understand that apparently people returned to their senses by voting Bush. Poor Scott. Liberals are so stupid and worthless.
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Hey scott I was on your web site and I bet you are one of those fellows who support Lynden Laroush.
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GOD BLESS THIS PRESIDENT. THANK YOU LORD FOR DEFEATING THE ALGORE
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"As the webmaster here I'm rather surprised that people are still checking out the story of the Bush family and their work on behalf of the Nazis during WWII. Can't we let this matter rest? It happened before the current Bush president was even born."

Hi Scott
I think regardless of what we hear, we want to believe that the US has good people running the country
it's like we want to believe that the story we heard about our favorite teacher being a child molester was gossip.... (example only!)

additionally, a great majority of americans - I'm talking the masses - have no idea this happened - I didn't - it's almost too disgusting to believe - & others just don't care or are too wasted to care & again others are worring how to feed their kids & have no time to worry or leard about it. Been there myself - no not wasted but so swamped with every day living & changing diapers etc. (BTW I still can't get to the doc & had to close down when I was at the site)

Back to the Bush Family thing - the fact that it happened long ago etc? - apples really don't fall too far from trees

Havce a good one




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Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #27


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Scott and the rest of you,
Read my message I left on August 1, 2001. Read carefully the part about the missile defense system. Read the part about other nations and leaders such as Sadam being untrustworthy. After Sept. 11, I wonder what your take is on the situation now. Just like I said, you can not trust any of these nations. The best offense is a good defense. Like I said, and I hate to say I am right, but the people, especially liberals, in this nation are in this fantasy world. The only people who will protect us is us and God. Wake up, for once and for all.
Kevin Watts

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #26


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As the webmaster here I'm rather surprised that people are still checking out the story of the Bush family and their work on behalf of the Nazis during WWII. Can't we let this matter rest? It happened before the current Bush president was even born.

Scott

Bush Family and the Nazis

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #25


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The Washington Post's efforts to win Bush the job of President:


The Washington Post was so ejaculatory in their praise of Bush it bordered on the insane. I'd like to refer you to their extroadinary, five part series which ran from 7/25/99 to 7/29/99. There was absolutely nothing in it that didn't read like it came straight and unedited from the Austin campaign. Here's some memorable quotes:

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Today, as Bush launches his presidential campaign as the anointed Republican front-runner, a sense of inevitability infuses his candidacy. (Washington Post, 7/25/99)

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A charismatic partier since his school days...He was the swashbuckling fraternity president, raw and fun, who people loved to be around (WP, 7/25/00)

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The entire five-part, frontpage series was extroadinary, and no one else who ran in the year 2000 for President got that much attention that was as much fluff.

Following this series they ran an article sharply contrasting the warm humor that Bush gives off to the reporters coming along on the campaign trail to the cold, unfriendly feeling that Al Gore gave. (Sometime in 6/2000.) The article wasn't about policy at all. It simply conveyed preference for being a witty guy.

After this (the same month as the prior article) they article informing us that Bush doesn't have Clinton's speaking ability, but darn it, he's still a great guy.

In the July 17, 2000 issue they ran a puff-piece on the good looks of Bush's nephew, George Prescott Bush.

On 7/23/00, the Washington Post began ANOTHER hagiographic bio of Bush. It was another front page series, but this time ran three days. Memorable quotes:

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[On Bush's fraternity drinking and partying, in order to lend gravity to him as a candidate:]

But even invoking that "heaviness" suggests a different truth &#8211; that in fact Bush is an unmistakable product of the '60s, albeit in a different way than is normally understood by that phrase. Like many conservatives his age, Bush was in his way consumed by that decade, defining himself and much of his agenda as the Republican presidential nominee by what he saw then and didn't much like.

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Meanwhile, Bluto &#8211; Bush &#8211; has mellowed into the noble underdog, champion of Everyman, "populist and smart," as Rove describes his candidate. "He got his values from Midland, Texas, where people don't care if you went to Yale, or what your name is &#8211; where you get ahead based on hard work and luck."

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Like anyone, Bush is the product of an ultimately unfathomable mixture of genes and experience.

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[On baseball owner Bush, who got the opportunity thanks to friends of his poweful father:]

I can't tell you George is the smartest guy I ever met or the best business guy I ever met, but he's doggone good at what he does," says Jim Reeves, a sports columnist and a doubter who was won over, like most others, by Bush. "He's very good at making people around him feel good.

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Undoubtedly, baseball made Bush more of a man of the people...But Bush's baseball career did give him the chance to demonstrate and develop his leadership skills.

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But Bush kept the ownership group together without benefit of his pedigree.

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During one extra-inning game Bush was watching with [Fay] Vincent, Bush called to [Rafael] Palmeiro in the on-deck circle to ask him to hit a home run "so we can all go home." Palmeiro hit a round-tripper and tipped his cap to Bush after crossing the plate. "That'd be good to have somebody we know in the White House," Palmeiro says now. "Will he still remember us?"

No doubt he will.

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Bush's obvious comfort with people and his curiosity about them constitute one of his greatest political assets. Loyalty to old friends is an integral part of that attraction, and a particularly valuable quality in a politician and a president, according to historian Michael Beschloss, because it "makes people feel more secure. You feel like he's going to protect you because he feels something for people."

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Scott

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #24


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Lee Sharpe, I am glad you are a Christian! However, I must say that one problem in this nation is too many people do not intergrate religion in their entire life. Let me see, is the 12th commandment as follows: "do not intergrate religion or God's word in your entire life, just where you want to intergrate it will be fine"; I am sorry Lee but I don't think that is how it goes.
Stem cell research is just another form of mankind trying to mess with God's work. I am truly sorry and deeply troubled by the sickness in this world, especially children, and illness is in my family as well but this is my belief on this topic and we obviously disagree.
Missile defense is a hot topic where you obviously trust the other nations more than I do. Do we become isolationist? Well, I guess we should just give them the first shot then consider doing something. Do you really think leaders like Sadam and the entire bunch over there are rational thinkers or trustworthy at all? Do not ever underestimate the enemy. Is Russia a nation in decline? Probably so but that is the type of nation that could do the most harm. I think actually that China is the one we have to worry the most about. However, you and I can never be able to project which one of these nations will side with one another against us. The best offense is a good defense!
Gore and Clinton! HA! The President is responsible for his actions and must have character! The position DOES require that. Lee, what you are forgetting is that Clinton and Monica did that in the Oval Office which is a federal building and is paid for by my tax money. Do you think if I went into my office tomorrow and did that and got caught and then admitted I lied would I be allowed to keep my job?! Get real Lee. As for Gore, I never have nor will agree with any of his stances on anything and plus he supported Clinton the whole time which tells me all I need to know about Gore. Even if that would not have happened I would never vote for Gore, his beliefs do not coincide with mine. I am not judging, just stating the facts.
Kevin Watts

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #23


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The below posting is a response to Kevin Watts'. The usage of "you" refers to him.

--Lee Sharpe
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Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #22


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First off, I am a Christain, and am proud I am. But this does not mean I integrate religion into all parts of my life. For you to say liberals "try to disprove God" and "[liberals think that] the clincs are God" are simply false. When it comes to stem-cell research, I have a great deal of compassion for those with illnesses and that is why I feel it is morally wrong not to allow this research to go forward.

Second, you cite religious beliefs for why you oppose stem cell research. Well, I admire that. Morality is a good reason to have a view on somethng. But, since you are a Christain, let's take a look. Has you or anyone living ever personally spoken with God and gotten his view on it? I'm betting that's a "no". Did I miss the 11th commandment "Thou shalt not research on embyotic stem cells."? I'm also betting that's a "no". So where do you derive this from Christianity. Even pro-lifer Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) has said "an embryo is more akin to [a sperm cell or unferilized egg] then a growing fetus inside [a mother's womb]." Some day, I want you to look in the face a good friend of mine's daughter who has Parkinson's disease, and tell her you will not allow federal funding for research that could cure her.

Third, the missile defense system is explicity banned by the Anti-Ballistic Missle treaty. According to the Constitution, nothing has more legal authority in this country than treaties with other nations except the Constitution itself. The fact that the Soviet Union is no longer a nation or it's a "cold war relic" are frivolous arguments. The former does not void the treaty. As for the latter, the idea of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) has kept nuclear war from occuring for decades. This would all be undone if we can defend against these missiles. In fact, it would lead scientists of other nations to develop ways to get around them or other new, worse weapons. Also, our allies seem to support the ABM treaty, as do the Russians. Are we to become isolationists and unilateralists and do whatever we please without any considerations to how our NATO allies and the Russians feel about it?

Finally, ignoring our different stances on the issues, you simply have your priorities out of whack. The policies of a President (or any other public official) and how he conducts himself with regard to the duties of his office are infinitely more important than his behavior for his private life. The Oath of Office does not make any reference to being a role model for children or any moral precepts. It is morally reprehensible to judge someone on any standard but the law, but that's exactly what you do to Clinton. Again, to use Christian teachings, God tells us not to judge others; that is for him to do. Voting against Clinton for this is bad enough, but to vote against Gore (who did not sleep with Monica Lewinsky, consentually or otherwise, or lie about it) because of Clintons's personal life is completely outrageous.

Thank you.
-- Lee Sharpe

P.S. A President doesn't "vote" for anything, he signs or vetoes legistlation and signs executive orders.
Lee Sharpe

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #21


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Scott, excuse me but I did not realize that the clinics were God." Since they were going to discard them anyway..." well geeeez how stupid of me , I should have remembered if we can rationalize everything then it must be okay! The clinics are God. OK now I understand. Look, liberal,are the embryos alive, are they creations of God and are you trying to tell me that if this happens then it will not lead to cloning and other chaotic things down the road. Come on Scott, you must be smarter than that. Anything man made will perish. Wake up man! The liberals in this nation, like you, spend all of their time trying to disprove God. That is all that a liberal is about, their faith is in Man not God; how foolish and arrogant! Looks like Mankind has not learned a thing since the fllod but then again that is the way it is suppose to be, just read Revelations! GW Bush, please vote yes on missile defense and no on stem cell murder!
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Scott, With your belief that we are turning into a barbarous society and your ideas on stem cell research, I would be interested on your views on abortion.Just remember how many nuts there are out there now that either have or are very close to having everything they need to make a bomb. You don't think Sadam would use it on us? None of us know what nut in the future will acquire this capability. If he was to use it, we would not have to worry about stem cell research. Nevertheless, you can obviously see our differences. You are a liberal and I am a conservative. Plain and simple. Just one more thing, I see any messing around with stem cell research, cloning, etc. and of course abortion is murder, these things are God's work and not ours. If anyone out there does not believe in the Bible please consider one thing: What if you are wrong? Feel like gambling? That is my watered down version for the non-believers. However, you don't have to believe in God or the Bible. Those people need to be prayed for.
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Kevin, I support stem cell research and oppose the missile "defense" system.

Stem cell research is necessary for science to solve a variety of ailments. (This includes one that I have.) It is no more unethical than a fertility clinic discarding unfertilized embryos. It is very nutty to hear someone say that it is ok for fertility clinics to discard embryos but not okay for these embryos to be used to make great leaps in science.

Christopher Reeve spoke movingly about stem cell research. He believes that he and others with the same spinal condition can be cured. This is because the stem cells can become any cell in the human body. If new cells were inserted in the very small place in Reeve's spinal cord that has no living nerve cells, his brain could tell the rest of the spinal cord to move.

There are also promised advancements in heart disease, still the #1 cause of death in the US. Stem cells can become heart tissue and can save and promote life by repairing damaged hearts.

Missile "defense" is the most insane idea ever proposed by a US president. In my opinion, that we're even seriously thinking about it suggests that US is a barbarous society ready to fall into chaos.


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Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #18


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Scott, I like the Bush family and always have because of what they believe in, which are conservative values, you know family, God, country, etc. Overall I agree, so far, on all the stances that Bush has taken on all issues. The media complains of how he is catering to us conservatives. Guess what, HE IS A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN, THIS JUST IN!!!!!!!!!!! I do not with any liberal point of views on any issues and that is where you and I differ. I did not get on the internet and bash Clinton like you have on Bush on this site. And believe me I definitely wanted to bash Clinton and had plenty of ammo to do it, but you must respect the office. You know RESPECT something that has not been in the White House from 1992 to Jan. 2001!

p.s. let's see what Bush does on stem cell and missile defense!
Kevin Watts

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #17


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Scott, it is simple, you are a liberal and I am a conservative. Now, I do not have time to explain all the differences between the two. You know the difference between the two. However, to fast forward to up-to-date topics let's talk about two issues that are on the front burner now.
1. Stem cell research
2. Missile defense system

I vote no on stem cell research basically because I am a conservative who is against abortion and this falls under that category for me.
I vote yes on missile defense system. The reason the other nations are against that is because we will be up one on them and they do not like it. Tough! We need to protect ourselves.Plus Russia does not have them money to compete anyway.

Now I bet you would differ on both. Right?
Kevin Watts

Mon, Jul 17 03:41 2017 - 51.255.65.2 - message #16


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Kevin, why don't you tell me what you like about G.W. Bush? That way we might have a conversation on the topic.


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Well, Scott, let's see, you have listed Bush and the Chimp, some other humorous site and something about Bush and Nazis?! Really Scott, I get tired of the liberals on here always bashing Bush, so get a life Scott. Face it your boy Gore lost ao don't waste our time with your little Bush jokes and junk.
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Kevin, why am I an idiot?

Scott

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Scott, get a life, you idiot!
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G W Bush is the first president I have had since 1991. He is doing a great job. I am receiving a $600.00 from his tax plan like so many of you are.I am still waiting for the three that Clinton promised us. Keep up the good work George!
Kevin Watts

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I WANTED TO OBTAIN A LITTLE IMFORMATION ABOUT THE TAX REFUND FOR THOSE HOW PAID TAXES IN THE YEAR OF 2000
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Here's another humorous site.

Scott

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