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911 Made Simple - Planes can't enter steel buildings

One_2.gif 9/11/01: Downtown Manhattan is attacked by nuclear weapons. It remains a cancer zone to this day. In addition, the TV news networks aired fake video of animated planes striking the World Trade Center on 9/11/01. The fact that the TV networks aired fake planes on TV is the most important fact of this time.

Fake, Fake, Fake
911 "plane"!

Flight_175_Hoax

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Despite heavy censorship, The 911 Hoax is finally getting out.

However, New York Metro is running out of time. The 911 Hoax has to break soon. The US economy is teetering. (Two billion a day on wars are taking a toll.) New York Metro has to wake up now about the phony 9/11 planes or martial law will come to the United States.

Three_2.gif Join us! We're the ones who know that aluminum planes can't enter steel buildings like ghosts! We're the ones who know that the core columns in the WTC would have shredded any plane that managed somehow to pass the exterior steel walls.

Four_2.gif Stand up and be heard! No planes struck the World Trade Center.



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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

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Ghenghis: Crazy

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E.D.I.
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I did not know that people were saying or believed it was a hoax until I ran upon this site. Now I can't seem to get away from this site. I admit, it has changed my view upon it.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #61


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

jeez, it just can't be more obvious that the tv networks aired fake video of animated planes on 9/11. meanwhile, hardly anyone out there seems to care.



Chopper 4 / WB11 footage comparison

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #60


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

from virtually the same camera angle!

first one, absolutely no flight 175 to be found:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zQTsiLX3XbA

And this pops up now:-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=woOrxB8c9zg&mode=related&search=

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #59


admin
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well, if you look at the video the TV networks aired of the Towers collapsing you'll see a very mysterious glow. this glow accompanies the collapse of the North Tower and building 7. Asbestos in the Towers can't explain this glow, which resembles nuclear explosions.


nukes in NYC

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #58


Julie
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"Downtown NYC cancer cluster indicates WTC was brought down with nuclear weapons."

In 9/11 Coincidences, on YouTube, they mention that the building structure was full of asbestos, so this can be the real reason...

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #57


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

Absolutely incredible new revelations about how the TV networks aired fake video of animated "planes" on 9/11!

Parts I, II and IV not to be missed. Part III has good payoff near the end.

Part I, tHE 911 NEWSWMEDIA COVERAGE:
http://tinyurl.com/2yc5l9
--or--
http://www.livevideo.com/video/6F393F4DE41C4CF798CBB438E6378129/september-clues-part1.aspx


Part II, tHE FLYING TELEPHANTS:
http://tinyurl.com/ysycy7
--or--
http://www.livevideo.com/video/9CA2E0D39C0A44EBA589A972F80FC2A6/september-clues-part2.aspx


Part III, Of MISSILES and MEN:
http://tinyurl.com/yv84fn
--or--
http://www.livevideo.com/video/E0E8DC73928D42D4A01CF664B22E16B5/september-clues-part3.aspx


Part IV, tHE DENSE COINCIDENCE DANCE:
http://tinyurl.com/yubvjm
--or--
http://www.livevideo.com/video/3F706266A8524D6AA3CCC4CFC2F0F257/september-clues-part4.aspx




September 11 clues - must see video

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #56


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

here's an eerie 9/11 video. the music is spooky.


no plane witnesses

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #55


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

wow, this is a fantastic video about the 911 media hoax. highly recommended!


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Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #54


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

watch the fireball as the camera zooms out!



the frozen fireball

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #53


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

"Half in, half out… can I get a damage report? Let’s see… the plane appears to be fine – same goes for the tower. Notice how there’s no hole in the tower between the engines and the fuselage. This picture is representative of a pixel crash, not a plane crash...."


The Pixel Crash

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #52


Admin
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comments from a reader:

I think it is also very important to mention that the fuselages of jetliners are only 1 to 1.5 millimetres thick and the reinforcing stringers and frames less than 2 mm thick.The proportions of the fuselage( diameter to thickness ratio ) is similar to that of a coke can.The reinforcement and floors would make it 3 to 5 times stiffer than a can scaled up in size but the fuselage would crumple like a can at least initially on impact with the steel facade.The mode of failure is called thin shell buckling.

The wings would shear off. The B25 which hit the ESB in July 1945 had both wings sheared off. I have a photograph somewhere of one of the sheared off wings lying on 34th street.It is available in the book "The sky is falling" by Arthur Weingarten published in the seventies.

--[name withheld]

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #51


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

BBC announced the collapse of WTC 7 a half hour before it happened:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49f_1172526096&p=1

(assuming this is authentic BBC telecast from 9/11: absolutely incredible!! the BBC essentially <i>gave away</i> a lot of the hoax elements of 9/11/01 to their audience!! Please, watch this.)


Google censors the BBC video; BBC claims it "lost" its 9/11 tapes:
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/010307mediablacklists.htm


BBC "lost" their 9/11 tapes!
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_conspiracy.html
http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/bbc_lost_tapes_of_21st_century_defining_moment.htm


BBC a half hour early in its 9/11 reporting

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #50


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(CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS): Steel has a linear stress-strain relationship up to its yield point. The yield point is determined by the interaction of carbon atoms and dislocations in stressed steel. The steel used in the World Trade Towers was specifically cold worked and of alloy composition so that the yield point was extraordinarily high -- much higher than could ever be exceeded by an aluminum cigar tube directed into it. A first-year physics student will be able to verify this and will tell you that the ultimate tensile strength of the columns at the WTC was much greater than the forces that could have been applied by the hypothetical airliners.

What we have in the oft-played videos are clever compositing works that in no way represent the laws of physics. Structural steel (ASTM A36 grade) has a hield strength of 250 Mega Pascal Units (MPa) and an ulimate strength of 400 MPa. Its density is g/cm3 and one need only do the math to prove that what has been sold to the American people is a bill of goods -- a fantasy.

People! Do the math!!!!!

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People, it would be quite simple to set up a scale simulation to prove or disprove the issue here. Have you ever wondered why not one entity has ever done this? The reason is simple: the results would in no way match what the television images showed. Aircraft are built to be as light as humanly possible and are essentially fragile eggshells made of aluminum. The laws of physics would dictate that the wreckage of the planes would have crumpled and mostly fallen to the streets below. This is what happened when the small plane piloted by the Yankee pitcher Cory Lidle crashed into a Manhattan apartment building. Given, his small Cessna was on a smaller scale than the airliners alleged to have struck the World Trade Towers. However, the building he hit was EVEN SMALLER in scale than the towers.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #48


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ANN ARBOR, MI (Disassociated Press) April 13, 2007 - Bartholomew J. Sneed, Professor of Physical Sciences at the University of Michigan, has corroborated a recent claim made by Rosie O'Donnell, referring to the collapse of World Trade Tower Seven in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, that it is physically impossible for fire to melt steel...

Scientist Corroborates Rosie O'Donnell's 9/11

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #47


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You people are all crazy. Do you know what it would take to pull off a "Hoax" of that magnitude. In case you didn't already know, doing too many drugs makes you paranoid! Get off the crack pipe!

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #46


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I am glad I found this site I think it is good that it is up. THere are alot of people who need to wake up and look at the facts!!! 9/11 was a big hoax for sure!!!!! THERE WAS NO PLANES!!!!! Look at the facts and pictures. Listen to ALex Jones he has alot of information on this as well also Harrythomas does too. Lets get the word out and lets all stand to have a better future!!!!!
ALSO I would like to say I think that RON PAUL IS THE ONE FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!
Peace and GOd BLess
dawnrm

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #45


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911 Truth and Lies Conference -- This is going to happen folks. The "911 Truth and Lies Conference" will happen this spring and set precedents by being the first with a lie detector test for the speakers and leaders stepping up to be counted.

It is a huge step that many of us see needed to clear our names from the constant aspersions and lies used by agent provocateurs.

http://www.911researchers.com

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #44


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Vox Pop/DKMC • Brooklyn, NY 11218 • 718 940 2084

February 21, 2007
NYC 9/11 Truth Author Sander Hicks to Speak this Weekend in Arizona

Sander Hicks, New York City’s leading author of alternative views of the 9/11 attacks, will be speaking and appearing numerous times at this weekend’s 9/11 Accountability Conference in Chandler, AZ. Hicks is founder of two media companies, author of The Big Wedding, a ground-breaking book on 9/11, and the “punk of publishing” in award-winning 2003 documentary “Horns and Halos.”

More Info on 9/11 Accountability Conference:
The 9/11 Accountability: Strategies and Solutions Conference takes place this weekend, at the Crowne Plaza San Marcos, in Chandler, Arizona, from February 23-25, 2007. Over 350 concerned citizens of Arizona have pre-registered, and many more are expected. More information: http://www.911accountability.org/ 602-714-1174.

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http://www.livevideo.com/Ringwind

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #42


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This site is unreal! The sad thing is that some people actually believe this stuff. Yeah, 9/11 was a hoax, along with walking on the Moon and the Holocaust. Oh, and the government has aliens in a vault somewhere in Roswell, too!

How in the world can anyone believe that 9/11 was a hoax, seriously? Our government can't even cover up Clinton getting a BJ in the oval office, but somehow they could flawlessly pull off blowing up the Twin Towers, while simultaneously making it look like Al-Qaeda did it? Who knew? And just where did those airplanes go, anyway? Ya know, the ones that didn't hit the Towers and Pentagon but somehow disappeared anyway? Ya know, the ones that were made of aluminum, which obviously couldn't penetrate steel when it's traveling at 500 mph? Haha, I wonder which physicist on this site came up with that theory. Clearly no science majors in this group.

Also, what about all the families that got phone calls from loved ones in the planes that were being sabotaged, and specifically said they were being hijacked? Was that all a big joke too? Wow, our government really thought this through!

This nothing but far-left paranoia and propaganda, and anyone with a 3rd grade education should be smart enough not to fall for it.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #41


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Once again we see an obvious straw man. The real 9/11 Truth movement is making so much progress exposing the fact that 9/11 was an inside job, that agents involved must resort to building straw men, like this web site.

It is interesting to note that this was the FIRST hit on a google search for "911 truth message board". I am sure this is by design.

The REAL 911 truth movement will not be derailed bu psy-ops projects like this.


911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB. 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.

Visit http://www.infowars.com/ and become informed.


P.S. Don't feed the trolls.



Straw man

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #40


David Howard
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www.911hoax.com and www.911researchers.com = 911 Truth

Google Search: The FBI uses polygraphs to eliminate suspects

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #39


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

"Please take this site down, it is blatent misinformation. Your arguments are designed to be moronic and turn peoples' opinions..."

if 911truth.org was really a good site for people to visit why the desperate need to have 911hoax.com shut down? there's over 500 911 sites on the Net. why do you fear 911hoax.com so much?


Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #38


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Please take this site down, it is blatent misinformation. Your arguments are designed to be moronic and turn peoples' opinions. Goto a real site

http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.st911.org/

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1336167662031629480&q=painfull+deceptions

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #37


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Just wanted to get my say since you will undountedly ban me now. Damn!!you Yahoo

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #36


mike
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Sheesh! You are an idiot.Plain and simple.Nice blurry pics by the way. I guess you think that the loch ness monster is also giving rides to Elvis and Jim Morrison somewhere too. You should lay off the crack pipe, and move to the Middle East, where you would obviously feel more at home. Moron.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #35


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i admit I am drawn in by this, but how do you explain all of the people who died?

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #34


David Howard
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There would not have been attacks on 9/11 or the assassination of JFK, if George Bush Sr. had never been born.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #33


admin
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wow, this site is finally back up. for those who were wondering what happened...the hosting company attacked this site.

this site mentions the fact that the tv news media aired fake video of animated planes hitting the WTC. There is almost no place where this idea can be expressed in public in the US. Just about everywhere the "no planes" idea gets mentioned it gets censored.

recently the former hosting company abruptly took this website down and moved it to another server. It was down for about 3-4 days.

For the next several weeks I kept asking for a backup of the DB. They were moving in super-slow motion. Each time they gave me a backup it wouldn't restore.

well, it took some doing but we're back. these boards are live.

always keep in mind that while days may go by before anyone posts here again, there are always LOTS of eyeballs visiting every night.

someday there may be peace.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #32


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Mini H-bomb in basement upwards directed: Finnish Military Expert solves last unclear issue about how 9/11 was executed

For me, this was the only question that was not yet clear. Now it is clear.

Source:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/H-device.htm

Notice that the title is the OPPOSITE of what you can conclude...

BTW, I do remember this Finnish Military Expert from the CNN Kosovo Board, as the Third World War officially begun, 24 March 1999...
http://who-are-the-illuminati.blogspot.com/

Mini H-bomb in basement upwards directed

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #31


Harry Lime
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Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

hi Sane Person. thanks for stopping by. i'll address two of your points.

Quote 1: "First off, an aluminum plane weighing several tons travelling at 500 miles per hour would most certainly be able to penetrate the WTC."

"most certainly" isn't exactly arguing a point.

if a real plane hit the WTC it would resemble the plane that hit the Empire State building decades ago:
http://www.evesmag.com/empirestatebldgcrash.jpg

airplanes are largely made of aluminum. wings are made of fiberglass. there ain't no way an airplane is going to disappear into a steel building without any pieces breaking off.


Quote 2: "First live video was from North" starts out the with the hilarious statement that UA175 was fueled with diesel fuel."

Jet fuel is refined kerosene. Kero burns around 650 Celcius. Steel melts at 2000 degrees Celcius. so, just as a stove doesn't melt when you light a burner on top, so too the Towers would not have melted in their footprints because of kerosene burning in the open air.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #30


A Sane Person
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First off, an aluminum plane weighing several tons travelling at 500 miles per hour would most certainly be able to penetrate the WTC. What do you suppose should have happened--should it have bounced off the side of the building? (I don't know if you were too high to notice this or not, but there was a lot of glass on the side of the buildings, too.)

Your "did CNN air fake video" page is what really got me. Your points are embarassing to read:

Like points 3 & 4: The "wind" and "weather" reports. You say the reports say the wind was at 300. So the wind was coming from the Northwest, which means it was blowing *from the northwest towards the southeast*. You even bring up the fact the the wind is blowing towards the southeast in your expert photoanalysis--so if the weather report is verifying the photographic evidence, ummm, what's the conspiracy?

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #29


A Sane Person
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Point 5: "First live video was from North" starts out the with the hilarious statement that UA175 was fueled with diesel fuel. Do you even know what you're talking about? Are you high as a kite? Did I really need to ask? Jet planes do not run on diesel fuel. Trains do, semi-trailers do, planes do not.

You go on to question how somebody could possibly move camera locations in 15 short minutes--um, they got up and moved?--though to my untrained eye, it looks like they just zoomed in a bit. Then you go on to ask where all the buildings in the background are. Last time I checked, the WTC was at the southern tip of Manhattan, and that shot is, as you said, from the North. It probably would be helpful for you to know that these were also the tallest buildings around at the time, and the camera was zoomed in towards the top of them (the flat parts where the sliver of the buildings meet the blue of the sky would be the top there, you see.)

Finally, you ask why the plane is in shadow in the frames where it's approaching the WTC. Take a look at those frames again. Notice the smoke? I'm sure you did, because you pointed out the highlights on them elsewhere. Well, those "highlights" on the smoke are where the sun is shining on it, which, in turn, means that the smoke is blocking the sun from things behind it, a phenonmenon we non-stoners in fact refer to as: a "shadow."

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #28


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Damn dude, I really wanted to refute all the points in your site, but it is just so damned big and chock full of all sorts of dumb sh**. You ask why people were filming from the south side instead of from the north after the North tower was hit. Duh, because *that's where they were?* Because they were getting footage of the smoke coming out of that big building they saw to the north of them?

Your "notes" on "banking" are laughable, too. You don't seem to be able to take into account that, from a fixed camera angle, a plane could indeed look like it was headed to the right even when it was banking to the left.

I'm certain your "enemies" at Indymedia and The History Channel are erasing your posts for a good reason--they don't want to be seen giving a venue to ideas as dumb as the ones on this site. I can't say that I blame them.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #27


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Your "hoax" theory is so full of holes that I suggest the only "hoax" is this website. You offer no proof, just statements of fact. Sorry, but saying "the media doctored the footage" doesn't make it a fact. To pull off a hoax of this magnitude would require thousands of people and months if not years of planning. Yet you don't have a single person who has stepped forward to say they were involved. As for doctoring footage, it would take dozens of FX wizards a month or so of pre-planning, and at least a week from the time of the event to composite planes into all footage. It's impossible to pull off within minutes of the attacks, from multiple angles no less. And that assumes that they got hold of EVERY bit of footage taken of the event. SOMEONE would have home video of the second tower exploding sans plane if indeed there was no plane. Tens of thousands of witnesses watched planes fly into buildings. Or are they part of it? And controlled demolition? It takes teams of experts months to prep buildings for that level of demo. No one in the THREE buildings noticed the teams tearing walls out and setting charges? No one tripped on the MILES of wires it would require? The list is growing. And the airlines? Where are the planes? Are they in on it too? One person. Produce ONE. Until then, your theories are ridiculous. The burden of proof is on you to PROVE your theories, not just make irresponsible claims. Or, is this the real hoax?

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #26


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Regardless of speculation about the 911 attack, we need to focus on what we know for sure. The administration had already planned the invasion of Iraq to achieve its political and financial goals. Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were always bitter enemies and not partners in the 911 attack. The al Q sought to overthrow Hussein and start a civil war in Iraq. What we had on 9/11/01 was a situation of America trapped between enemies without and within. We could have struck the al Q at known positions in Afghanistan but this would have defeated the goals of Bush and Cheney. It is absolute fact that the administration ignored countless reports from the FBI, the CIA and global intelligence because they knew an attack on opur United States would give them the ability to manipulate our patriotism and the press. Bush subordinates John Pondexter and Paul Wolfkowitz, former bin Laden allies from the Reagan administration (where we unlawfully supported the al Q against Soviet backed armies) were observed smiling after the attack because they knew the administration would totally benefit from this. We must be the eye of a growing internet hurricane that will launch American Revolution 2 and bing us to direct democracy, national mandates and 24/7 online control of our progressive and compassionate destiny. Join the American Coalition 4 Direct Democracy (a concept not a group) and follow our developing third party coalition. You be da boss now!


American Revolution Two

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Hoax - I guess the world is flat too. Don't believe everything you think you see. It really happened, get over it.

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Google: Stoelting Ultrascribe polygraph

Marion, Florence or Leavenworth

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Admin
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Goodbye, Anton

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I just registered as a new member of this site which I discovered accidently while surfing the net.

Let me make sure I have this right: am I correct that there are people who are seriously posting comments on this site stating that 911 was a hoax?

If this is true, then what I say is dircted at YOU, i.e., the person who really believes this and is not joking I do not expect you to change your opinion. Your mental illness prevents you from doing that. Suffice it to say that you are truly sick. A convicted rapist has more integrity and intellectual honesty than you. Part of me laughs at you, part of me feels sad for you.

There has to be a God because only a devine force could keep stupid people like you alive for so long after being born.

Anton

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #21


vig
Location: San Diego, CA
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Joined: 6/21/2006
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I heard this song called "Iraq" by a musician from San Diego, CA by the name of TIMZ. The song sent chills throughout my body. His words are so powerful and they convey my exact feelings. Hear it for yourself at: Just click play song, you can even download it from this site.

http://www.thebeat.fm/jamroom/bands/56/

George Bush, I hope you are listening.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #20


ROGUE22
Location: Los Angeles
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Joined: 6/10/2006
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The strange projectiles, seen flying from the WTC, are supposed to be pieces of metal melted by the Thermite used for the WTC demolition. Also doesn't anyone remember the interview on 20/20, Nightline, or 60 minutes, I don't remember which, where about 7 NYC FBI agents retired in protest. They stated that they "had" the same 16 hijackers about 5 years before 9/11. They were not allowed to pursue the investigation, on these suspects. The orders to "cease and desist" were coming from the White House. These interviews took place about 4-5 months after 9/11. By the way, I have a copy of the transcripts, of an interview with Donald Rumsfeld, where he admits that the Pentagon was hit by a missle. If anybody wants a copy email me and I will send you a copy, ASAP. Take Care and

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #19


Matt Marriott
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1. There was no plane debris at the Pentagon.
Cover-up: none. "Witnesses" and an old piece of metal was the package used to make sure that people get the message "It was an inside job", as part of the truth planted to terrorise you.
Web of disinformation: some (rense, whatreallyhappened.com, etc) go as far as to try to cover-up what was meant to be obvious, since that helps people to swallow the core lie.


9/11 for dummies - The Five Basic Facts, -1

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #18


David Howard
Location: Joplin, Missouri
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Joined: 2/28/2007
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Google Search: "Arrest Bush 41"

9/11 and October Surprise scandal

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #17


Aquarillis
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Aluminum planes CAN enter buildings. The World Trade Centers were NOT made of steel on the outside, but concrete. The inside was made of ASTM-E119, a super high-grade steel. Let's think like you for a second. What do you think would have happened if a plane going at 300 MPH hit the strongest building in New York City?

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #16


iagainsti
Location: frederick, md
Interests: punk/politics/girls
Joined: 3/31/2006
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you know what i kinda find funny...on show biz tongight when they ask the audience about 9/11 anda u.s cover up the people that believe the government dont even give facts they just call us insane. That is saying a lot because that basically saying they have no facts behind what they are saying

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #15


ImpeachDaPuppetMaster
Location: mi
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Joined: 1/4/2006
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George (Flipper) Bush is a disgrace to the american people, he used his powers as flipper-in chief to destroy a country for his own personal revenge. He is killing American soldiers daily, and innocent Iraqi citizen's becaus Saddam tried to kill his daddy in 1991 Golf War, and said in his demented speech that GOD told him to do it. The time is now to take him, and his puppet Tricky Dicky out of office, Vote to Impeach PuppetMaster Bush, before this country losses the respect it has in the world.

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #14


Harry Lime
Location: Baltimore
Interests: films, plays, sports, symphony
Joined: 10/25/2008
Planes can't park inside steel buildings.

Hey John, interesting link from CNN. It is amazing how casual they are over the five frames the Pentagon released. Like the Pentagon, the most heavily surveilled corridor in the world, can't produce more than five still photos of the Boeing which strikes it.

regards,
Harry


Why only Five Frames?

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #13


JohnPhoenix
Location: New orleans
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Joined: 2/1/2005
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CNN admits an airplane Did Not hit the Pentagon on 9-11 !!


This is a copy of a letter I wrote to the editor of CNN's web site division.

Please see the link for yourself :-)

The website is about the pictures the DoD released of the so called plane hitting the Pentagon.

Dear Editor,

This story starts with this statement:

"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Department of Defense on Thursday released a series of photos taken by a security camera that show the fireball from a hijacked airliner crashing into the Pentagon on September 11."

You see, here is More Proof an Airplane did Not crash into the Pentagon. By this stories own words, a Fireball crashed into the Pentagon. I agree with this.

Fireball in this sentence, Is the SUBJECT. Also, please put a comma, after the word 'airliner'.

O.k., Now that I have proven the truth of this disaster, and the truth that I have better journalism skills than the writer of this story, may I have a job? <grin>

John Phoenix


Plane didn't hit Pentagon

Tue, Sep 7 21:14 2010 - 38.107.191.105 - message #12


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